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Saturday, February 23rd 2008, 4:54pm

New Argentine Aircraft 1936

With FMA and IMPA at full stretch to fulfill war orders there are few new developments.

Here is one exception. A carrier-based scout/ dive-bomber.

Tucan T-18 NB-1
Dimensions: span 14.05m; length 10.85; height 3.81m; wing area 28.98 sq m (46/ 35.7/ 12.6/ 312 sq ft)
Structure: all-metal monocoque fuselage in three sections with Z section fames and L section stringers with riveted stressed light alloy covering, light alloy used for cantilever tail construction and tailplane covering. Cantilever metal wing with two steel spars, all-metal split flaps and aluminium framed ailerons with fabric covering. Underwing hydraulic-operated aluminium dive-brakes. Rudder and elevators aluminium framed with fabric covering. Retractable main undercarriage with single oleo-pneumatic legs with pneumatic brakes, an un-retractable castoring tail wheel and catapult spools and retractable arrestor hook attached to the lower fuselage aft.
Weights: empty 5,712lbs, maximum take-off 8,000lbs
Powerplant: one 1000hp Spartan 1000 twin-row radial engine
Performance: max speed 270 mph; service ceiling 30,500ft; range 921 miles (800nm)
Capacity: pilot in enclosed cockpit forward, navigator/gunner behind in fuselage in enclosed cockpit facing aft, pilot protected by a 6mm thick armoured plate
Armament: four wing-mounted 7.62mm Browning MG, one manual dorsal mounting with 7.92mm FMG/M32 MG (drum feed), bombload 227kg (500lbs) on one ventral (500lbs) and two wing racks (250lbs each)
Equipment: full controls and navigation equipment including receiver/transmitter, Sperry autopilot, one rescue dinghy in wingroot and ventral camera fitted in cabin floor

At the same time the Commando Aviacion Naval Argentina has a requirement for carrier-based single-engined fighters and torpedo bombers. There are no specifications because the Technical Staff wish to review all types with the aim of selecting the best. Deliveries must begin by April 1936.


Saturday, February 23rd 2008, 5:41pm

Gothia Works will offer its Type 109

ENGINE 1xGWM V-1300, 1300Hp
Take-off weight 4650 kg
Empty weight 3170 kg
Wingspan 15.64 m
Length 12.28 m
Height 4.46 m
Wing area 34.60 m2
Max. speed 480Km/h
Cruise speed 345 km/h
Ceiling 6600 m
Range 900 km
ARMAMENT 3x~8mm machine-guns (2 fixed forward firing, 1 flexible munt rearward firing), 900kg of bombs
or 1 Torpedo

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Vukovlad" (Feb 23rd 2008, 5:46pm)


Saturday, February 23rd 2008, 6:19pm

As usual, Argentina has access to Spartan and Accrisius designs via its afiliations fith FMA and IMPA.

(You've also helped design them too!)

In addition ANAF can offer its own design.


Saturday, February 23rd 2008, 6:31pm

Looks quite good, nice and light for the carriers. Numbers might be a bit on the small side to warrant a production run, so possibly a role as land based dive bombers as well?

Italy has the Reggiane Falco and Breda Ba.67 as carrier-based fighters and torpedo bombers respectively, though you could just buy the Falco as it is fitted for torpedo carriage.


Saturday, February 23rd 2008, 6:34pm

Which are you referring to?


Saturday, February 23rd 2008, 6:58pm

Edited my post to add some eye candy.


Sunday, February 24th 2008, 2:40am

While neither a Torpedo Bomber or a Fighter, the A-1 Mapache has enough weight reserves to be modified to fit both roles. The plane is already in use with the FAA, and the next batch (on its way) is already carrier capable.

Meanwhile CAC offers the CAC-9 Skua for the Fighter role. The plane has been accepted by the RANAS.

CAC-9 Skua (OTL modified Vought V-143)

Power: Pratt & Witney 900hp R-1830-64 Twin Wasp

Armament: Four 7.62/0.3in machine guns

Size: Wingspan - 33ft
Length - 27ft
Wing area - 190sq ft

Weight: Empty - 3500lb
Max take-off - 4400lb

Performance: Max speed - 310mph
Ceiling - 27,000ft
Range - 900 miles
Climb - 2900ft per minute


Friday, February 29th 2008, 11:34am

Great Britain offers the following;

Gloster SS.37N Sea Gladiator; a navalised Gladiator with arrestor hook, catapult spools and dingy stowage.
Dimensions; 32.3/ 27.5/ 11.7/ 323 sq ft; 1x 830hp Bristol Mercury VIIIA; max speed 252mph; range 440 miles and service ceiling 33,500ft.

The new Gloster Gannet is also available but the British Government is reluctant to release them for export with the current political situation.

Fairey Swordfish; developed to S.15/31 to replace the Shark orders of 215 have been fulfilled by mid 1935. Two/ three crew are carried along with two Vickers MGs and one 21in torpedo or bombs and mines up to 1,500lbs under the wings. The aircraft is a biplane of the traditional metal with fabric covering construction. Very sturdy and dependable and can be fitted with floats as shipboard spotters.
Dimensions; 45.6/ 35.8/ 12.4/ 607 sq ft; 1x 690hp Bristol Pegasus IIIM; max speed 130mph; range 1,030 miles and service ceiling 10,700ft.


Saturday, March 1st 2008, 2:05pm

Heinkel offers the He-112T, while Junkers offers the Ju-87C.

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Saturday, March 1st 2008, 5:55pm

Argh an opportunity to shill for Fokker, and I can't !!!!
Something about conducting an aggressive war against SAE...


Sunday, March 2nd 2008, 3:36pm

Hrolf, any stats for those two designs? If its secret PM me...

Kaiser, you may feel bad but FMA has been unable to enter any other contests around the world due to the war and therefore have lost more exports than Fokker.

FMA is a late entry, scared of losing any position within domestic production to IMPA Luis Carron has re-designed his new I-01 as a carrier-based fighter with new wings and a beefier fuselage.

Rough stats are 322mph, 730 miles, 4x13mm 1x250lb bomb.


Sunday, March 2nd 2008, 5:40pm

The He-112T is the same plane that Heinkel submitted to the Iberian competition, so it's essentially equivalent to the historical He-112 with a Jumo-211B, resulting in a faster but somewhat heavier aircraft. The additional weight of arresting gear, wing-folding equipment, and airframe reinforcing also drive up the dry weight, resulting in a lower range than the landplane version.

The Ju-87C is as historical:
Origin: Junkers Flugzeug und Motorenwerke AG
Type: carrier-borne attack aircraft
Engine: 1,200hp Jumo 211D
Armament: three MG 17s, 500-700kg of bombs
Speed: 332km/h at 4,000m
Climb: 330m/minute
Ceiling: service ceiling 7,000m
Range: on internal fuel 510-580km
Weight: empty 2,760kg, loaded 5,840kg
Wingspan: (full) 13.2m, (folded) 5m
Length: 11m
Crew: two


Saturday, April 5th 2008, 5:56pm

The winners are;

Carrier-based fighters: Japan with 50 *Censored* fighters and further orders to follow for around 65 *Censored* fighters.

Carrier-based dive bombers: Tucan T-18 NB-1

Carrier-based torpedo bombers: Licence for the Spartan TBN-7.

It was hard to choose fighters with so many good types equalling shore-based fighters in performance.


Saturday, April 5th 2008, 7:13pm

Hmmm *censored* means *A6M* or *Space Battleship Yamato*...


Saturday, April 5th 2008, 7:29pm

Well, it could easily be a naval version of the Ki-34 and the later ones of the Ki-37... or not...
... of course that would most likely result in an "A6" designation (A6K) for the plane.
Can't tell you what it is but it is definitely not a Zero.

Space Battleship Yamato would either be designated as a battleship or with an 'M' (for Special Purpose Aircraft). Definitely not with an 'A' thus not a fighter.

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Saturday, April 5th 2008, 7:41pm

To the Dutch Hawks, Japanese fighters going to Argentina is a troubling trend with one positive- it may annoy Bharat and SAE, but likely it will just go over like the various Italian sales.