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Tuesday, July 28th 2009, 9:35pm

RfP Bombers

The Persian Goverment is issuing the following Request for Proposals for a medium bomber to replace the Mitsubishi Ki-1. The specification is as follows, a bombload of at least 2,500 Kg, a speed of at least 500 Km/h, a combat radius with full load of at least 1350 Km

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Vukovlad" (Jul 28th 2009, 9:35pm)


Tuesday, July 28th 2009, 10:01pm

Neither the US or Germany have any medium bombers that fit all those parameters.


Tuesday, July 28th 2009, 11:27pm

They are fairly demanding specifications for something that could be considered a medium bomber. Closest I could really find that exceeds the specs is the B-42 Mixmaster or the later A-26. With lower speed and bombload there are more possibilities like the B-26, B-25 or Do-217.


Tuesday, July 28th 2009, 11:33pm

It might be a bit too demanding, strange since i based it on the PZL P.49


Wednesday, July 29th 2009, 12:16am

Its the speed that does it, the bombers that are that fast usually have much smaller bombloads.


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Wednesday, July 29th 2009, 10:58am

The RSAF has nothing in their stocks that could answer that request. Only the B-14 bomber has such bomb load and range but is clearly much slower - and is far from being a medium bomber in size, costs and appearance.

If Persia is to rethink their demands the RSAF might be able to offer some Haviks or Marauders - all combat tested and bugs worked out.


Wednesday, July 29th 2009, 11:39am

China has the Guoyong G-25B, but it has a lower payload (only 1800kg), but it fits the other requirements (speed / range).


Wednesday, July 29th 2009, 9:48pm

Send in the closest aircraft you can get to the mentioned specifications


Wednesday, July 29th 2009, 10:26pm

PZL has the PZL P.37 Loos bomber, which was introduced in 1936. Speed is 445km/h, range is 1500km with bombload, while bombload is 2580kg. The PZL P.49 begins development in 1938, which should match your specifications, although it won't be available until late 1939/early 1940.


Wednesday, July 29th 2009, 10:26pm

Mexico can offer the Azcarte B-23 Dragon (OTL Douglas B-23)



Wednesday, July 29th 2009, 10:51pm

I should point out that it doesnt say range but combat radius


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Wednesday, July 29th 2009, 11:48pm

So you want a range of 2700km at full load? For a medium bomber?


Wednesday, July 29th 2009, 11:57pm

Well, actually its a bit more since combat radius includes 10-15 min over the target and reserves for aircombat...


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Thursday, July 30th 2009, 12:07am

I see. Good luck.... We are still in 1937, right?


Thursday, July 30th 2009, 12:13am

So you essentially want a 3,000 km range at full load? Why not buy a squadron of heavy bombers then? And what tactical targets is Persia planning on bombing that is 1,350km away from its closest airfield?


Thursday, July 30th 2009, 12:31am

Well as I said the specs might need some tweaking... As for targets well I have big neighbours...


Thursday, July 30th 2009, 8:01am

Big neighbours require big bombers. :D


Thursday, July 30th 2009, 3:34pm

The US has the B-25 and B-26, both still in their test phases and not yet adopted by the USAAC. If Persia would prefer a more proven design, the US has the A-20.