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Kaiser Kirk

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Tuesday, August 5th 2008, 2:05am

Royal Dutch Airlines

Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij
or more simply : KLM

Founded in 1920, KLM flies a number of airliners, from the venerable Fokker F.VIIb/3m (first plane across the Atlantic, first to the North pole) to the newest F.XXXVII

F.2 retired
F.3 retired
F.VIIb/3m a few remain for short flights
F.XX Zilvermeeuw
F.XXXVII Arend the "Flying Hotel"


Fokker F.VIIb/3m; Atlantic-Fokker C-2A
from wiki

General characteristics
Crew: 2
Capacity: 8 passengers
Length: 47 ft 11in (14.60m)
Wingspan: 71 ft 2in (21.70 m)
Height: 12 ft 8 in (3.90 m)
Empty weight: 6,725 lb (3,050 kg)
Loaded weight: 11,570 lb (5,200 kg)
Powerplant: 3× Wright J-5 Whirlwind radial engines, 220 hp (164 kW) each

Cruise speed: 92 kts (170 km/h)

F.10 (Later Model, licensed by Avia)
General characteristics
Crew: 2
Capacity: 12 passengers
Length: 50 ft 7 in (15.41 m)
Wingspan: 79 ft 1 in (24.10 m)
Height: 12 ft 8 in (3.86 m)
Empty weight: 7,716 lb (3,500 kg)
Loaded weight: 13,007 lb (5,900 kg)
Powerplant: 3× Pratt & Whitney Wasp radial engines, 420 hp (313 kW) each

Cruise speed: 105 kts (195 km/h)
Range: 691 nm (1,280 km)

Notes : Byrd flew over the pole in a F.VII, First US-Hawaii flight was in an F.VII, First US-Australia and Australia-New Zealand flights were F.VII, Earhart flew as a passenger over the Atlantic in a F.VII, and an F.VII flew for 150 hours in an aerial refueling trial


from wiki
General characteristics
Crew: 4
Capacity: up to 18 passengers
Length: 17.80 m
Wingspan: 23.02 m
Height: 4.75 m
Empty weight: 4350 kg
Loaded weight: 7250 kg
Powerplant: 3× Pratt & Whitney Wasp C radial, 425 HP each
Cruise speed: 205 km/h


from wiki
General characteristics
Crew: Two-four
Capacity: 12 passengers
Length: 18.50 m (60 ft 8 in)
Wingspan: 24.50 m (80 ft 4 in)
Wing area: 84.0 m² (904 ft²)
Empty weight: 4,620 kg (10,190 lb)
Gross weight: 7,850 kg (17,300 lb)
Powerplant: 3 × Pratt & Whitney Wasp C, 313 kW (420 hp) each
Maximum speed: 240 km/h (150 mph)
Range: 1,820 km (1,130 miles)
Service ceiling: 4,800 m (15,750 ft)


F.XX Zilvermeeuw

1934 Airliner
Rough fields

Crew : 3
Passengers : 12 seated or 6 sleeper berths
Powerplant : 3x Wright Cyclone GR-1820-F52 890hp
Payload : 3,000lbs for passengers, +1,000 extra
Range : 1,100nm at 135kts
Rate of climb : 1,670 fpm
Loaded Stall speed : 58kts
Ceiling : 35,000 ft
Max speed : 225kts (259 mph)
Corner speed : 146kts, 28.2 deg/ sec
Weight (max) : 20,944 lbs
Cost : $63,000
Wing Span: 84.3 ft Length: 54.2 ft. Wing Area: 1033 ft2
Wingloading : 20.3lbs/ ft2 loaded, 17.3lbs/ft2 unladen,


from wiki

General characteristics

Crew: 2-3
Capacity: 14 passengers
Length: 62 ft 6 in (19.1 m)
Wingspan: 85 ft 0 in (25.9 m)
Height: 15 ft 10 in (4.8 m)
Wing area: 940 ft² (87.3 m²)
Empty weight: 12,455 lb (5,650 kg)
Loaded weight: 18,560 lb (8,420 kg)
Powerplant: 2× Wright Cyclone GR-F53 9-cylinder radial engines, 730 hp (540 kW) each


Maximum speed: 210 mph at 6,800ft (338 km/h)
Combat radius: 1,085 miles (1,750 km)
Service ceiling 22,750 ft (6,930 m)
Rate of climb: 1,030 ft/min (310 m/min)


F.37 Arend
F.36 – Prototype only
F.36A – All metal version of F.36, limited produciton
F.37 – F.36 with semi-retractable landing gear

1935 Airliner
Rough fields
The Arend was equipped with specially manufactured 70” Dunlop tires to allow use of mud airstrips.

Crew : 4
Passengers : 32 seated or 16 sleeper berths

Powerplant : 4x Pratt & Whitney SB-G Twin Wasp 1,000hp
Payload : 8,000lbs for passengers, +1,000 extra
Range : 1,350nm at 135kts
Rate of climb : 1,079 fpm
Loaded Stall speed : 60kts
Ceiling : 32,000 ft
Max speed : 211kts (244 mph)
Corner speed : 152kts, 25.2 deg/ sec
Weight (max) : 39,683 lbs
Cost : $152,000
Wing Span: 108.3 ft Length: 77.4 ft. Wing Area: 1850 ft2
Wingloading : 20.5lbs/ ft2 loaded, 17lbs/ft2 unladen

Images and route maps may follow...or just may wait until I get this to my encyclopedia.

Kaiser Kirk

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Wednesday, August 6th 2008, 3:04am

KLM Routes

OTL, KLM began flying in 1920. They first flew to the DEI in 1924, and started regular routes in 1929. They also flew to many major western European cities.

Now, for a very long time I've been meaning to figure out how that works in Wesworld, what with India being hostile and all, not to mention allies and the Kongo, SAE...etc.

So after checking on permissions going east, I simply made up the rest... will actually I've seen a map of the western routes, so tried to mimic the memory.

All routes are built for the F.XVIII, which was the plane originally used on the Amsterdam-Batavia run. Though I haven't figured out how they had a Amsterdam-Curaco run with it.

Check it out, let me know if a route should be deleted/altered/added to fit.

I figure that KLM hooks to Imperial at London, Lufthansa at Berlin, Eurasia at Kumming, and Filipino air (forget Akilis name for it) in Manilla.

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Kaiser Kirk" (Aug 6th 2008, 3:06am)


Wednesday, August 6th 2008, 8:47am

That's what i'm still at work for my EURASIA

Looks good in my eyes.

Kaiser Kirk

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Wednesday, August 6th 2008, 8:51am

I figure that good EURASIA-KLM hubs are Dar Es Salaam and Kumming, passengers can easily transfer networks there. Though I'm sure flights overlap in Jakarta and Manilla, etc.

I simply brought the world map up in ARCgis6, brought in the WW map as an image and fiddled with scale until it fit. Add cities and line layers and draw your own air routes!




Saturday, August 9th 2008, 4:17am

That will fit in nicely.

The projected Siam air freight routes will just fit into the Asian RDA routing.


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Saturday, August 9th 2008, 6:01am

Bangkok also makes a good hub overall. I believe Eurasia Air and Filipino Air land there as well.